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Offline hejie

Green Castle Hard Preparation
« on: January 24, 2013, 04:01:33 PM »
Hi Everyone

I was spurred by the discussion on when and how we should start on our many deaths for GC Hard so thought I'd kickstart the whole process here. Like u all know, I play on the malaysia server on cubi, but usually i just turn up and kill stuff, so the intricacies of planning / managing a raid group may not be there (and I hope the usual group leaders for GC normal, eg. Duke can help out here)

If you haven't already, check out the strategy guide for GC Hard: http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/263/20120709/Forbidden_Ground_Fort_Qing_Yun_Guide_Updated_Hard_Mode-4ffae03e1b9127413-1.html (courtesy of ccbren  ;D)

Without further ado, lets get to the requirements.

Class Make-up
2 Tanks (Wudang)
2 Emei (with level 5 Buddha)
2 Tangmen (for added bonus with smoke)
The rest I'm pretty easy, but good if we can have a Scholar to recover health / add dmg

Level requirement
1NG36 or 2NG20

Profession requirement
2 Chess Players with defence and health recovery strategy respectively [I can be one, but only level 4 by this sat. Need 1 more]
1 Musician [Can try having one but may not be worth at our lvl. If you musician pls go ahead to suggest what to play, then we can discuss]

Gear requirement
I/m not sure if we should stipulate this, but I think it would be fair for the rest of team that you should be reasonably geared, with perhaps at least 2/3 pieces of full enhanced silver at least for the tank, and at least a copper weapon (if u use it) for the rest.

Other equipment
We would need all the help we can get, so
Health and energy pots: at least 2 of each for each fight - Both these can be made by herbalists, which I believe we have a couple in the guild. If you're signing up and a herbalist, pls volunteer yourself to provide some for a token some. Btw I'm herbalist also, can supply a couple of them to the tanks. Basically, out of internal energy is not an acceptable line.
- Food [Good to have]
- Poison [Good to have]

My plan is for us to do the first run as soon as we hit 2NG20 but as I know you guys may already be raring to go this sat, so let's just see what we can come up with.

Pls express your interest to attend and give your feedback. Everything (well almost) is open to discussion.

A word on loot: too long to write here and don't want to dilute the topic, so check out the other thread.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2013, 04:31:45 PM by Einzo »

Offline Pork

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 10:28:59 PM »
Scholar reporting.

I can supply rank 6 weiqi dual buff

+250 ext def n 10hp/5mp regen/sec

Offline hejie

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 09:24:26 AM »
Whassup Pork. Cool man, I need to chiong my weiqi, anybody got <<End>> can gib me.  :)

Waiting for more friendly guildies to support the thread.

Using myself as benchmark, it looks like most pple should be 2ng13 or 14 by this sat night. Recommend chiong with 1NG36 if all still keen.

Offline phyllisgal

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 10:20:59 AM »
Emei here with buddha palm all skill max lv5 except feint and heal(dagger) @ lv5 too. Dps also mainly focus on palm skill so its a win win.

Stacking gears with spirit for me and they are minimum def37 with a couple 54s. Palm skill doesnt require weapon but i do have a copper crap dagger 10-14 to do aoe dps if needed.

I have 1NG36 and 2NG10 as of this thread. Food and medicine buff i have steam bun for hp/mp regen and spirit/max mp medicine. Im also musician with Int def +400, hp400, mp200, mp 150 n 8 breathe, reduce enemy hit rate 9% crit rate 4% max mp 50
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 11:05:12 AM by phyllisgal »

Offline Mero

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 04:33:59 PM »
reporting in as "the rest".

I can tombstone piledriver flying assassin  ;D

and 2ng can reach lvl16 tomorrow i think. doubt will be of use at all.

i got weiqi, pretty low level though, dont think i have unlock double weiqi buff
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 04:44:43 PM by Mero »

Offline zeitou

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 05:20:43 PM »
Wudang herbalist muscian.

Offline Pork

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 12:05:21 AM »
<End> can drop at Huanhua influence at Chengdu

If not try asking in school chat.

I bought mine for 50L. Ucan's one for 20L


Wheel Sword strategy is useless when you are at lvl 6 Weiqi

Because other strats lvl 6 weiqi 2nd Buff gives +10hp/5mp regen per sec
better than Wheel Sword +8hp/6mp regen per sec
« Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 12:08:14 AM by Pork »

Offline Pork

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 01:13:18 AM »
1st GC Hard Run Failed

Raid Group

1. Ucanius
2. HeJie
3. Duke
4. Mero
5. Chantears
6. Pork
7. Zeitou
8. KopiGao
9. WhiteMan27
10. Niclohsg
11. DuKuYIJian
12. phyllisgal

Offline phyllisgal

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 03:40:52 AM »

Offline Duke

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 09:55:53 AM »
Hello Raiders!

As discussed with Ucanius & Hejie, in order to have more time running GC Hard, we will be starting a GC Hard run this Sat 2nd Feb 3pm Singapore time. Invites will begin shortly after the Sat School War.

I would like to reemphasize the importance of your commitment for this Guild first event by preparing yourself with the proper gears, hp/mp/buff pots, food and poisons. A full set Copper grade armours with at least ONE enhance that gives you above 600 External defence will be a good start. For armour purchase, u guys can look for Lucatos, Hejie, Chantears or Ryorin. One piece of copper gear with one enhance will not cost you more than 30Liang.

Lastly, i hope that all the Raiders from last GC Hard run will be able to join us for this Sat run. Kindly show up by Sat 2:30pm for interested parties. However, pls understand that the number players for GC Hard is limited.

Thanks for reading. Let's make history this Saturday!

Info for GCC Hard

« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 12:46:05 PM by Duke »

Offline hejie

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 12:59:24 PM »
Thanks Duke and Ucanius for organising the coming raid.

Just to provide a bit more clarity on how I see investment in gear since its going to be a serious requirement for coming raids.

Gear levels

As we all know currently there are 4 categories of gear in the open: wood, iron, copper and silver. (there are lower levels i.e a low silver with 46 instead of 54 def. within each but thats beyond the scope of discussion)

Silver gear is about the best you can get for quite a while until silver tier 2, gold and jade come out. However that being said, the next tiers are actually quite expensive to make and enhance and i don't forsee us using them for quite a while.

Enhancement types

The number of layers you can enhance for gear depends on its type. So its 2 times (I think) for wood and Iron, while its 4 times for copper and silver.

Layer enhancements work as below
First layer - External def
2nd Layer - Attribute
3rd Layer - External def
4th Layer - Attribute

However, the range of attributes you can get does not scale according to level. i.e your iron gear may routinely come up with much higher range of external def values as compared to copper gear. This is actually consistent since it is more expensive to enhance iron than copper.

Enhancement bonus

External def bonus - Whatever your external defence is shown on the gear, is actually multiplied by a factor (of 10?). i.e +15 external def is actually +150 def for u.

Attribute bonus - The 2nd level of enhancement will determine the gear's neigong type. i.e it can either yin/yang/taichi. If its not your neigong type, basically wearing it will not give you the attribute. If its not your ng type, it shows up in red. Key consequence is that if you simply enhance it one level then wear it, if you later enahnce it again, you get a one in three chance of something u can't use. And further, you may find the attribute to be something you don't want or can't use due to limiting capacity in your neigong. More on this later.

How to enhance
Now this is the point where partnerships come into play. The type of material requirements are as below

First layer - stuff made by poison maker
2nd layer - stuff made by tailor
3rd layer - stuff made by poison maker again (but higher lvl)
4th layer - stuff made by tailor (but higher lvl)

I dont have the info off hand (someone can fill in the blanks later) but basically u would need to contact your friendly guildies for the stuff, buy/trade them if you can from them.

How to make sense of Duke's post and how all this affects the raid

600 external defence is really quite easy to get. Most of you already should have 300-400 external as base defence. Which means all you need is about 2 or 3 enhancements only.

Now next, why did Duke say copper specifically and not silver? I think because it is more cost effective to enhance copper as compared to silver, especially if you're only going to do 1 enhancement on it and wait for your dream silver to come. Now I personally don't have a full set of copper but my external def is high enough that I can tank the boss as long with array/music/pill for a while. End of the day is, all of you should at least be able to take some hits.

I don't actually have much copper gear for sale at the moment, all disassembled already but they should be easily available on the market in any case. People only want the best, but have no idea of the tradeoff they have to make. Some people just wait for months before getting any gear, which just means you can't farm instances effectively --> no recipe --> slow/no progression. I always cringe when hearing people buy recipes because these things are a dime a dozen if we're moving forwad. There's no reason to buy them at exorbitant prices if we can easily farm them ourselves.

Some external defence would make you that much harder for assasins and bosses to not 1-hit you. gotta try it to believe it. The same thinking goes behind weapons, its dirt cheap to get a copper and enhance them and you only lose a little bit of dmg, i routinely hunt for copper weapons with weapon enhancements for cheap. If you use a weapon, you should get a copper one at least.

Feel free to ask other questions if unclear and see you in game.

Offline Pork

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 02:44:58 PM »

If gt uber weiqi players like myself and whiteman  ;D we can provide the weiqi buff +400 ext def n 10hp/5mp regen. What I noticed in previous run is that Weiqi primary buff is stackable therefore having both of us will have +800 ext def. So no need worry so much abt ext def la.

I'm not able to make it for 3pm GC Hard on Sat.

I will like to counter propose 1am GC Hard on Fri Midnite or Sat Midnite after reset.

Offline capriken

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 05:44:24 PM »
I am proposing GCC Hard Team 2 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, 8pm to 10.30pm. If not enough members, we can always do GCC common on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Pre-requisite is 6man array and Flows with Chi.

Offline LilCabbage

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM »
Finally met the requirement, both ng and gears wise....hope to join tml =p If I get back home in time keke

Offline capriken

Re: Green Castle Hard Preparation
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 11:44:36 PM »
Hey guys, there seems to be a need for chain Buddha Light for the last boss, so Emeis will be in hot demand when it comes to forming up. There may come a time where the team makeup may only allow slots for members with specific skill sets, so pls don't have hard feelings about being not invited to the team during formup. I am going to start a thread called GCC Hard signup, so head over to state your preference and provide some details.